PS, would like to add a note, that completely disregarding “alls” personal beliefs, politics, religion
for the betterment of “more options” in games, is only a good thing especially concerning themes where such isn’t vital
i’d always like to have that/the option to play as a “no one”/“blank” human shaped mass of genetic material with which to add whatever (personal) absurdity i could be inclined to in that character creation moment, ie. -let me have fun with multiple choice option to create whatever freak monstrosity blob or plain beige boring suburban accountant “Doe” i’d wish to play any given moment -since my mood changes often 
(i’d like to not be limited to just “faceless guy nr3” despite being a fps and i’ll never see my toon 
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No there unfortunately is not in many places and that is also something I vehemently disagree with. Everyone should be allowed to hold and express any opinions or ideals they want no matter how horrific or awful someone else might think them.
It is only by examining ideas and countering them with information and discussion that bigotry can be defeated, this has been proven time and time again. Censorship and persecution only makes the people who have the disallowed ideas feel like righteous victims and entrench themselves into those flawed ideals even further and before we know it we’ve got radicals on our hands.
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the nazis weren’t censored in the 30’s in Germany though, and that didn’t help to prevent their evil either…
and I actually disagree, as there’s a reason we have laws, so if the law forbids it it shouldn’t be allowed…
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i didn’t say they didn’t have the “right” to criticize, but whether it was legitimate criticism,
since within such crowd sourced review system it all becomes “nrs” and their/any “laughability” get’s lost in a pool, or (depending on the game/outrage) the very basis/forming the entire sea -but could still give people the wrong impression about the game
(thus make people think a game spoon feeds non-nazi beliefs -when all it does it click cookies -which is a neither “yes and/or no” situation beholden to both game and review
but all people is getting -i think the best “real” world example i could recall would be gtaV/bethesda games, that drowned in so much negativity, and most people would just see negative reviews because X bad, even tho that X would never affect them because they never really play with mods/creationclub anyway -but just got turned away because the sheer weight of negative similarities convinced them “well even if it’s got nothing to do with me, then it must be bad, no buy”)
yup, but that i agree with too, that’s taking things out =“censorship”, not adding options… and yes, negatively reviewing the laws would also then be more appropriate, since it was thus forced on the “creator”
but i think there is a stark difference between censoring a theme/idea/vision trying to depict something(thus correspondingly appropriate to include, like nazis in ww2), vs “forcing” an extra addition that some who “don’t wish extra optional options” -for them or others, to have like the star fox/dark souls easy mode…
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You do realise that there’s been and still are an awful lot of laws in this world that we particularly in the west today consider both barbaric, unjust and unethical… right?
As for nazis, I’d really like to not delve into that topic. But you could probably find a lot of interesting reading about the interactions between the german communist party and the National socialist party in the early 30s if you wish to. But lets not have a discussion on it, ok?
@Gnuffi if you get turned away by negative reviews that talk about things you do not care about then well that’s on you. Not any one else’s fault.
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In a perfect world where people actually remain open minded and are capable of change, sure some people come around, everyone has heard of a homophobic parent who, once their own kid came out suddenly became accepting but there are also plenty of stories of parents that never accepted their kid and acted as though they never existed.
It’s even harder with the internet because people with stupid ideas can find each other and provide support (anti-vaxers anyone?) to defend against reasonable discussion.
Don’t forget this is the dark timeline we are in.
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Also Steam/Valve is a private company, if they don’t want a review or game or anything else on their platform they are completely within their rights to remove it
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yes, and u do realize that that is quite arrogant? [edit: like, for example, maybe one should compare crime and drug addiction statistics and see what actually produces better results?]
Just as ppl should respect each other’s opinions and one’s freedom to have those, countries and civilizations should respect each other’s laws and cultural differences and not judge the other as inferior. The only necessity is to respect the law of the country u r visiting if such occurs, and the same goes for the foreigner visiting yours…
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People are flawed, we can’t expect anything else. Trying to enforce opinions and persecuting people with “the wrong” ones results in a far less perfect and darker time line than anything you could probably imagine.
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u’d actually be surprised how many doctors are anti and how many vaccines have been forbidden in countries after they were initially obligatory… (and u’d be even more surprised [and possibly disgusted] if u actually researched what some contain, lol)
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But no one is forced to choose ‘they’
It is the opposite.
For people who aren’t he/she, they are in this game not forced to choose something that doesn’t represent them.
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Everyone chill!..It’s not worth the hurt feelings…I have to fix dinner and I expect this topic to be very quiet when I get back…PLEASE!!!
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Aren’t laws just someone opinion on what should be controlled? Someones opinion on controlling someone opinion.
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Preferably it is the collective opinions of the general public of the governed area. It quickly tends become troublesome if it’s only the opinions of a small ruling elite that counts.
I do hope that I have come across as chill throughout this.
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Okay Mum I’m gonna go back to reading Steve/Bucky fic, this one is an Underworld AU, quite good so far.
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agree completely, but imo it’s sad tho,
because such thing/type personality has effects reaching beyond themselves, thus the "negativity"caused harm by ex. loss of sales etc
sorta like how it’s sad there are “metacritic” people out there that won’t give games a chance unless it got a good/high score, sure they have the right to be that way (and what a shame), but that means “scores” then become an actual instrument, to do “harm or good”, and as any tool that can inflict harm; should then be subject to scrutiny/“curation” to whether if/when a use was then “legitimate” or appropriate (imo)
-thus i couldn’t object to the idea of “censoring” (obvious) laughable/illegitimate "dis Disney has no nazis"reviews
(but i’m also not a proponent for 100% free speech either, tho i do recognize the ethical dilemma in what/who/how to decide what should/wouldn’t be “allowed”)
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same thing could be said about our foods 
imo you did
-good talk
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We have every right to complain about that! Seriously, a third-person plural pronoun to refer to an individual? That’s just bad grammar.
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It actually isn’t bad grammar (when the gender is unknown, for example) as long as there is subject-verb agreement.
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The problem is that while what YOU personally might consider obviously illegitimate and we’d probably agree on most, other’s will draw that line differently. So who really has the say on what is legitimate or not and will they always be as reasonable as you or I?
They wont, the worm always turns and before you know it someone have decided that your opinion is the one that is illegitimate and needs to be censored and removed. This is why I oppose any system that deligitimises someone’s opinions or censors what is allowed to be said or thought. I try to be principled in this as far as can possibly be practical.
We wont agree then and that’s fine of course.
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