But if the developers puts their beliefs/politics/whatever have you into their creation then is that not something to legitimately criticise if you feel that is a detriment to the product?
And once again I feel the need to point out that the reviews that mentions it at all are a tiny minority and the reason for the mixed reception is by far overshadowed by the game actually having a lot of issues.
Look at the forum and the removed topics it scares me and makes me sad tbh
How would it be a detriment to the product? Does it take away from the graphics, the story, or the gameplay? I don’t think this has anything to do with what a game is judged upon. For example, would it make sense to say that Divinity Original Sin is a bad game because u can play as a dwarf and u hate dwarves, for example?
This only says something about the reviewer, and nothing about the game…
You can’t say xcom is a bad game cuz u hate aliens, u can say u hate aliens if u want, but that says nothing about the game rly
also, fuck aliens, cuz they kill cows and shit
I scimmed some of the negative reviews and found 2 reviews that gave it a bad review for that. So 2 out of 80 isn’t that bad. But I just scimmed and there’s still those 2 people
Hehehe that made me laugh 
I believe I have already adequately explained the reasoning behind that in my previous posts. If you feel like a piece of entertainment is trying to lecture you on something then you may very well feel the product is not fit for purpose and would prefer to spend your money and time on something else. That seems perfectly reasonable to me.
I agree 100% with u on this man, 100%, but i don’t feel it gives one the right to say the product sucks because of it. (I guess we won’t agree on this, sadly, but that is fine 
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Well we’re working with a binary “review” system here. You can either recommend or you can not recommend a steam game. So if you feel the product is not what you wanted it to be then all you can do is not recommend it and try to describe why. This is what these people have done. They have the same right to express their opinions on why someone should or should not buy a steam game as anyone else.
I am waiting with baited breath to see what @gnuffi has been typing for the last 15 minutes : )
the game is not lecturing I think
Gameplay stays the same
You can chose in the beginning if your character is a he, she or they
So if you dont like they, you dont use it. Or dont like to be a female you dont use it
I think that is what Harith is trying to say
So the story isnt about transgenders or any political statements only about Mechs
I found this ironic (still trying to get “irony” right, hopefully I got it with this)
hey, pls don’t assume the Mechs’ genders!
Because I say sad and angry? And they contradict?
no because those feelings contradict accepting those ppl (who criticize) for what they are as well, lol
Because you’re not accepting the other people* for who they are.
*Those who’s opinions and worldview you do not share. By exclaiming there is something wrong with them and starting a quite honestly rather incendiary topic about the whole thing.
imo it then becomes whether or not it’s actually legitimized criticism then,
as a far end of the spectrum “opposite” example could be
what if people/a group decided to negatively review a/any game because it didn’t include/have nazis? would such “critique” then be valid just because a developer “imposes” their non-nazi political view on a subset of people that have a different belief
say if neo- nazis got upset about there being no nazi representation in disney games? fantasy games, or even "real world/life like depicted"games past/present/future without nazisme in? -wouldn’t their/such critique/negative reviews be almost instantaneously (rightfully) disregarded as pure frivolous unwarranted hogwash?
because such notion of being either detrimental to a/any product or in anyway being able to affect personal immersion enough to a point as to warrant a complaint, would be automatically invalidated on its basis by the pure absurdity of it alone, no? 
(atleast not how our/most civilizations/nations are regarding “needs” towards nazi related things/products)
ps sry for the wall+far off example/point, just thought a sharp contrast might be a perspective that puts politics/beliefs and diff behavior/responses(corresponding or not) under another light and scrutiny
completely valid point to raise too, 
on side note: sorta disappointing tho, it was/is on my wishlist as a thing to keep an eye out for “later” (which didn’t fall in the "wait 5+years to get for 2$"category) 
tho maybe “later” in this sense will also make it so it comes in the “patched” & playable/less-no tech issues at that time then 
No I think they would be perfectly within their right to express that opinion. I would of course laugh at them and think them silly for it. But if that is the metrics by which they’d like to measure the desirability of a product then within a crowd sourced review system they’d have that right.
Also there are indeed people who have criticised the Wolfenstein games for releasing Nazi-scrubbed in Germany and I find that criticism entirely valid. Though I’d rather criticise the german laws that made that necessary rather than the game itself.
yo now this subject is insanely incendiary, and the truth is that u can actually go to jail for expressing some of those “opinions”, so i have to disagree, there is not an “absolute” right and freedom to express certain opinions
inb4 this gets shut down, rofl
Sigh, maybe I just don’t want to choose a gender, so I can pick ‘they’. Sometimes I don’t want a bunch of dudebros to know I’m a chick but I’m not comfortable choosing ‘he’ either.
Options are not political statements, will we in future not be able to chose skin colours in games? language options, everything must be English?
Come on, this is something that if it doesn’t affect you, you generally won’t notice it but for people who genuinely don’t ascribe to he or she it can make a really big difference to them.
@harith There are not only transgender people but also gender fluid people, that might be something you want to look up if you are more interested in the topic
Remember the days when you were able to enjoy playing a game as an Italian plumber and it didn’t matter what tf you were in real life?
yes I know you are right,but (short statement) for me it is all fine how people want to live their life as long as they dont hurt other people
And those remarks are hurting people thats why its making me sad/angry