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Epic Games Store -- A Legit and Threatening Entity to Steam?


#21

I think the only thing we should pay particular attention to here is what steam does in response.

They are definitely not without competition, sure they may have the physical platform a lot of people are using, but other platforms can piggyback off them (GOG seems to be doing this to some degree), reduce their direct sales or otherwise alter the business steam does.

Epic has played down its hand, lets see what the market leader responds with, if nothing happens. Then Epic will probably be able to leverage this foothold to its advantage. Honestly, I don’t see anything bad coming out of this, but I don’t see much good either.

This feels like an attempt to just ‘get a slice of the action’ on Epic’s part, not really driven by any particular drive or goal or need. They just want to get their 12%.


#22

profit drives everything… this world runs on money…

Being stagnant is what will likely happen, but hopefully some better changes.

Certainly, this is definitely what we are all concerned about.


#23

Well, knowing how Valve operates we can expect their reactive actions in about 2-3 years or so


#24

Yeah…

Feels like we are back in the days of intercontinental fishing boats… once an eon, a letter manages to make it to the other shore and even longer for a response…


#25

tricky issue is that it will be curated, so not everyone (aka most devs) will not be able to join…


#26

hm, a most worrying development for the poop-games devs…


#27

One thing not mentioned here that is very relevant to businesses like Chrono is that the 30% cut Steam takes includes access to (nearly) unlimited keys that can be sold via 3rd parties where Valve makes no money. This is the only thing that allows Chrono, Humble, GMG, Fanatical, IndieGala, etc to exist. It remains to be seen if Epic will allow for this, but I’m betting they won’t.


#28

Yeah, I’m not getting in for sure :upside_down_face:


#29

true that


#30

their loss :wink:


#31

Here I am using Chrono, Humble, Fanatical all of the time, and I didn’t even consider this… Thank you for the input @lonin. If Epic doesn’t allow 3rd party retailers, then there is no way they can make a big impact on the market. Partly also because of the exposure so many different store fronts give for the individual games as well.


#32

I’ve just installed https://playnite.link/Liking it so far. (Sorry if anyone has posted this above. I did look!)


#33

Apparently they’ll be giving away a game every two weeks, starting with Subnautica on the 14th and Super Meat Boy on the 28th. The upside of having more storefronts is that it always means more free games.

Some games announced at the VGAs seem to be releasing on the Epic Games store and not Steam, so this is a pretty big deal.


#34

Do you know if this free to play for 2 weeks or free forever if you claim it like in a lot of Steam offers? This is a big factor for a lot of people I would imagine. I wouldn’t want to be forced to play a particular game on their schedule. But a permanent free addition to any library is always welcome.


#35

I assume to keep, because they’d probably make it clear if it wasn’t. Here’s Epic’s update: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/news/the-epic-games-store-is-now-live


#36

Well therein lies the problem, they are not in fact very clear about it.

The store will also feature one free game every two weeks throughout 2019. Epic is funding these free releases so you always have something new to come and check out.

Can read like we’d expect most giveaways to function, for a limited time you’re able to claim a game to own. But could also very easily be understood as you’re given temporary access to a game for 2 weeks at a time.

I suppose we’ll see, I wouldn’t recommend anyone to try to rush through Subnautica in 2 weeks though. While I don’t doubt you could complete it in that time, It’s a game to take your time for and get lost in. Playing it with a time limit in mind is probably going to make it a lot less enjoyable.


#37

Judging from the past example with Shadow Complex Remastered it seems reasonable to expect that these games will be free to keep. On the other hand that was then and this is now and considering that they’re promising a free game every two weeks for an entire year, the option of a two week trial also seems likely. On the other other hand two weeks to play a good game for free with another game waiting behind the corner is still a pretty good offer in my opinion, since even for time-sinks like Subnautica it can be a great opportunity to check out the game before buying it, if you’re interested but on the fence. So either way looks like something worth checking out if there’s anything interesting on their list.


#38

Yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Subnautica devs specifically said they won’t be making a demo because players can just watch streamers playing the game on Youtube / buy the game on Steam and make a refund if it doesn’t work. Both these ways didn’t exactly click with me; but I think, trying out Subnautica on Epic store would be nice. Even if I don’t buy it there afterwards :upside_down_face:

Also, they’ll keep Super Meat Boy Forever an exclusive release for a year. If I REALLY want more Super Meat Boy in 2019, that’ll be the only place to go…


#39

Yeah I don’t like that attitude at all. Watch it on stream ruins a large portion of the game that’s about exploring, experimenting and figuring shit out on your own. It also doesn’t quite let you experience the immersion and atmosphere of the game for yourself. It also doesn’t let you know how it will run on your machine, which is something I’d say is an especially important thing for Subnautica in particular as the game runs like arse on even modern systems. I ran it under spec a bit and was probably lucky it ran as well as it did.

Buy it on steam and refund is just abusing the system, even if we have the dev’s blessing to do it. Steam refunds is not for demoing games.

Only if, as I mentioned before, you don’t go into it hoping to beat it in the 2 weeks. With the full intention of either buying it at the end, if it’s a time limited thing, or simply not play any more. You’ll miss so much of the game if you rush it.


#40

i thought this was pretty funny, #EpicRefunds


some excerpts

  • ip address

-(becase that never changes) :rofl:

  • date when you created your epic account
  • date of last login

-(right now?) :thinking:

  • name of Twitch, Switch, Playstation or xbox accounts connected + the date you connected them… o.O

:dizzy_face:

form questions to come (for no question asked limited refund policy):

  • please provide a 10 generation lineage -not from ancestry dot com
  • dna sample, -with photographic proof of you providing said sample
  • your bank account service agent’s home phone number
  • a small offering of either your first born or an untouched maid to our Lord Protector all merciful devouring Cthulhu