Apparently, France is second in the world for the production of games (or was in 2014)

Some articles:

https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/french-foreign-policy/economic-diplomacy-foreign-trade/events/article/france-is-second-in-the-world-for

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/france/paris/articles/how-france-became-a-world-leader-in-video-games/

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lol… love how the articles site “assassin’s creed”, despite assassin’s creed being made in canada, montreal, and none of the games were made in france
-except 2 mobile games… :man_facepalming:

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Canada is basically France.

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ubisoft annecy did the multiplayer and also worked on brotherhood, revelations, III, black flag, unity, the division, steep, ghost recon wildlands, etc.

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rofl, in any case, ubisoft is

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Also, would anyone argue that Nike shoes or iphones are Chinese products and not American because they are made in China by Chinese people (in addition to almost everything in the world now) though it is an American company? I don’t think so.

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so you agree they didn’t make assassin’s creeed,
they just added a section, that was, and could have been, tacked on to any game or type

also, just because ubisoft is in france, doesn’t mean all the games they release can be called “from france” - each respective main dep deserve “their” country’s credit imo
and fuck if i’ll ever accept annecy contribution as credit to them “making” assassin’s creed
otherwise a fuck ton of outsourced single part departments should suddenly get credit for “making/creating” a game, instead of just their respective addendum -which especially goes for ports, or sp games with tacked on mp components,

and the ubisoft and nike comparison doesn’t really hold up either imo, nike “creates”, while china manufactures/“prints”
montreal does “both” in this case

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Montreal works for Paris and does what Paris wants, Paris owns them…

Paris created those other studios to begin with, or bought them, or whatever, in any case, they are part of a French company regardless

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that does not make them, or it from france… way big diff, and don’t start going there just because you want to nitpick or mince words

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it actually does mate, when a company opens a subdivision in another country, that subdivision is still from the original country rly because it belongs to the company from the other country

If a Saudi company opens a business in New York, that is a Saudi business wtf

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that doesn’t mean what that NY company made is “made in saudi arabia”, cut that sht out

my milk and bacon isn’t german just because a global conglomerate bought the store (or farm) i got it from
my bread isn’t french just because they supplied the grain my local baker used
assassin’s creed was created and made in montreal, it’s canadian, doesn’t matter where the fuck some hq is located, otherwise you would argue if ubisoft is bought out(or even just relocated), that it would suddenly turn chinese or saudi, which isn’t the fcn case and never will be, don’t even try to make such bs argument…

hell by virtue of that notion you just said devs don’t even make the games, but publishers does, since they “own” the devs, and ´"tell them what to do", and are the last/top link in the business, or that publishers mothercompany even…

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who said anything about “made in”; I made exactly the opposite point

Listen, any Ubisoft Montreal employee will tell you that he works for a FRENCH company, you can’t argue with that. Thus their products are french products because they are made by a french company.

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The whole world agrees with that point which is exactly why France is the number 2 producer of video games.

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no, they work for a french company,
their company is canadian, and they are canadian, and their product is “canadian”

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which is exactly why it’s wrong, hell it doesn’t even cite asian sector, which overwhelms the western, (and it was a french gov site, so ofc it’s stroking itself a bit)

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their company is not canadian, it is owned by the french

Look, Nokia phones are made in China, if Nokia lets chinese designers in china design them because that is also cheaper, they would still be Finnish phones, no one would ever argue that

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Whoa dejavu, it’s like I just had this very conversation already.

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well y, i created a thread where this can be discussed so it doesn’t bother u in the other one :upside_down_face:

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i’ll bet you could find people to argue exactly that, (i’d be one of them, if there is no Finnish “touch” on it anymore)
if every step of the process is X, then it’s completely reasonable to call it X
doesn’t really matter much if owned or hq operated from Y, if Y lets X run it’s own show

subsidiary parent doesn’t = nationality, nor does ownership = creator
and both of these applies to the assassin’s creed ubisoft montreal sector argument
“apple” designs and shit, china manufactorers, it doesn’t make apple products “american” or “chinese”, in the same sense, but it does make it “apple’s”
in this case you sure as sht can call it canadian, and not french -just because ubisoft also happens to have a building with a name on in paris…

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fair enough i guess

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