OMG these guys suck so bad
Iâve been using the same card for years without issues. Then suddenly I once had this happen and that payment could never go through. Then Iâve since made other purchases from Humble with the same card without any issues at all, and now theyâre back at it. And the worst thing is that they actively encourage me to cancel the order WTF
edit: lol, no, this time itâs me that sucks actually 
I just realized I donât have enough $ on the card to begin with so, yeah, i actually cancelled now and am transferring $ from a different account to that one so i can try again tomorrow 
@Fraggles yeah, sry bout that 
(last time it happened i did have the $ though; i suspect itâs cuz they ran out of keys then)
Iâve gotten that message once or twice myself, I think they just pick some orders at random to be checked manually. Not sure if that is effective what so ever to prevent any silly business though or what it is they really verify. Usually goes through within a few minutes as far as I recall.
Or there could be a legitimate reason as well I suppose.
Anyway, are we sure we want to provide charity to Turkish and Syrian people? Theyâre pretty high on the list of awful governments having done terrible things to people both contemporary and historically.
double edit:
yo no WTF I DID HAVE ENOUGH CUZ NOW I REALIZE $30 HAD LEFT MY ACCOUNT (thus putting me below $30 and making me think the problem was a lack of $) AND HAVE NOW COME BACK NOW THAT IâVE CANCELLED
OMG THESE GUYS SUCK
YOU SUCK BALLZ HUMBLE
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so the money is definitely not going to those governments
and why would i not want to help those innocent ppl who have become homeless and lost everything and have nothing to do with what their governments have been doing? Those arenât even democracies dude.
edit: so yeah, back to square one: the $ have again left my account but it needs to be âverifiedâ (i even had to verify my phone number for it both times and thatâs still not enough)
I guess itâs ok if people in the West help the ppl there but âpeople from there or thereaboutsâ shouldnât be allowed to do so?
Scrolling sideways through 72 games because âyouâre on mobile! We think youâll prefer this UI change!â is rather obnoxious.
oh, right, itâs not 72 games, itâs 70 and two starfinder thingies.
As for the content, itâs not very appealing to me for $30. It looks like a lot of indie filler to me that I really donât need as Iâll likely never play.
yeah, the bundle is absolutely not worth it for me for the games, but I do want gotham knights, and i do want to help at least a little bit, so itâs good enough for me
my kids are going to be happy cuz iâm gonna have a bunch of keys for them to distribute to them
Itâs just a callback to an argument that went on a few days ago.
But lets devilâs advocate it a little.
The money is still going into those countries, providing food, medication, potentially infrastructure that the government then would not need to supply and as such saving them money to spend on evil deeds instead. Also not being a democracy isnât much of a defense, is it? That just means the people have not worked hard enough to depose their leaders, which would be beneficial to them first and foremost but also to the world in general.
Might it not be a citizenâs duty to incite a civil war before the government that represents them starts an international one? Iâm sure Ukrainians would have preferred if the war was happening in Russia right now. And itâd be the Russian people who suffered from the bad Russian leadership rather than Ukranianâs suffering due to the same. That seems fairer, doesnât it?
I mean if we are going to argue that Russian people should be punished through economic sanctions and boycotts that implies that we ARE laying responsibility for the governmentâs actions at the feet of the inhabitants. So if thatâs fair then maybe it could follow that we also canât help people in need in a country with a government who has or are doing bad things?
Maybe Iâll buy a bundle if it comes with Erdrogan apologizing for trying to coerce us to hand over political dissidents, trying force us to change our laws and blocking NATO membership?
Or hey I donât know, I donât actually want any of those games and I donât have $30 to toss away so itâs kind of a moot point either way.
yeah, i was kinda wondering whether it was just more so about that, lol
now, as for your other arguments, the only thing Iâd argue is that instead of punishing the people of a country which invades another through economic sanctions or whatever other tools which indeed are unjust towards them, you should just destroy that countryâs army and leadership instead, but ofc then weâre entering into the whole argument that that might provoke a nuclear holocaust then.
I personally donât think it would make much sense for the Russian ppl to go fight their government and die just so Ukrainians donât die. Those Russian ppl donât deserve to die anymore than those Ukrainians do. And if we rly want to argue that, yes, you should just be ready to give up your own life just to stop the Russian government from killing Ukrainians, well, then, indeed, why not then risk it all and just effectively destroy the Russian army and leadership and risk the nuclear holocaust?
Random Russian individuals donât actually have the firepower to destroy the Russian army and leadership, but all these other countries who are supposedly âhelpingâ the Ukrainians do have the actual power to do so if they wanted to. So then if the Russians should voluntarily fight their government over their aggression, then why shouldnât all Westerners and other people not fight their governments over their inaction so that they would grab the power themselves and intervene to save the Ukrainian people???
Thatâs all iâm gonna say about this subject, and I wasnât actually planning on entering it to begin with, but yeah, my worthless 2 cents.
2 cents received and hereâs your change.
Why would I? It isnât in any way my fault Putin is in power, the only people to blame for Putin would be the Russian people. Those among them who supports him and those among them who have failed to stop him. You donât have to best the entire Russian army, you just had to put a bullet in one particular head. So if weâre talking about who does or does not deserve to die Iâd say neither me nor Ukrainians have done anything that would invalidate rights to life.
Not even a tiny little bit more? Once your government starts killing foreigners maybe that blood does stain your hands just smidge, whether you agree with it or merely let it happen? Maybe you had the duty to do whatever it took to prevent that? And at what point does Putin lose breathing privileges?
Personally itâd take a lot for me to advocate for the death penalty. But thereâs places around the world where such judgements are handed down with some regularity and most of them Putinâs actions might very well qualify. What would be accomplished though? Would another lunatic pick up the reins and continue? Or is this Putinâs personal dick waving festival and simply taking him out of the picture would solve the problem?
We donât really have the answers to any of those questions though so donât worry about it. But I kind of think it might be an option that could well be worth keeping on the table.
It is not Westerners duty to prevent horror perpetrated by another party, certainly not at the cost of additional lives, it is the perpetrator who bears responsibility to stop. The question is who one qualifies as perpetrator. Putin alone, or Russia as a whole?
Oh and just as an addendum before someone starts whataboutism about how awful the USA is and all the wars theyâve waged and therefor all this also applies to Americans. In current Russia thereâs a possibility that getting Putin out of the way would change things, this has never been the case with any American president.
yeah, they suck. Iâve done plenty of purchases from them with the same card before. 
no gotham knights for me 
I feel like the Turkey-Syria earthquakes and Ruzzia are two separate issues.
Are the governments of Turkey and Syria great? No. I wouldnât approve of sending direct monetary aid to those governments. But, to me, funding humanitarian aid groups that go into a country to help the citizens is okay.
I would argue that not helping may actually be detrimental. If youâre helped by other countries, you are more likely to disapprove of your governments actions against them, and thus attempt to make changes. Whereas if countries said, ânope, your government is being a jerk, we wonât helpâ (to be clear, not waging war) the people are more likely to think, âthe world abandoned us when we were in need, so fuck the worldâ which may actually strengthen the oppressive government and support for it.
âwe started a war with another country, and the world abandoned usâ is a lot different. I would think reasonable people would understand why the world cut the country off.
That being said, itâs a very morally complex/grey area and doesnât always have a clear right or wrong answer. Not wanting to support an oppressive government in any way is understandable. Wanting to help the citizens through humanitarian efforts even though the government is oppressive is understandable as well.
I am passing on this because I went through the list and I own over 35 of the games. I quit counting at 35 so there are probably more. Besides I want to get this for Mr. Delenn.