POLL: What thing category will make you NOT play a game the most?

alrighty, since i’d like to dabble in necromancy, i’d like to slightly add to the talk about the past/recent expensive gpu prices
reading this article had me a bit like :thinking: “i’m missing something… ?” :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :man_shrugging:

since my basic understanding of “busynesness” is/was “part of what dictates “price” is supply/demand” -hence why i’m not quite getting necessarily why a 40% drop in shipment/“supply” would cause prices to fall, and not rise instead
since, for instance; back when it happened with NAND, storage+memory prices went up, due to lower manufacturing yields from bad batches & less shipments due to slight “stockpiling”, ie. less “supply”, “same” demand -higher price
sooo, anyone who’s had their coffee here?, +are savvy enough to enlighten a slightly confused gnome on this subject? :thinking:

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I had the same thought as you when I read the title. I really didn’t think that lowering production/shipments will drive prices down. I think it’s going to be the same as always, lower demand and more supply is the only way to lower prices. Unless this is some insiders hinting at “slashing prices” to get peak interest in buying cards that come on sale, so that they clear out available stock shortly before the next generation/improved cards are manufactured/shipped. :thinking:

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i think their/article’s “rationale”/“idea” is, that if supply is held back too, awaiting the asic miner rigs, that there will be “less” demand, thus the prices must fall too to keep in line with that
i speculated a couple of flaws in that idea

  • 1 being, there will ofc always be some miners that keep at it with gpus, for various reason. But, not all currencies are hampered equally on a gpu, and cryptos seem to sprout up harder than weeds these days, so there will “always” be something for gpu miners most likely
  • 2, halting supply “shortly” before next gen release, isn’t really gonna do much, since they are unlikely to dump out last gens at/post release of “equal” next gen to rival with. Usually last gen cards get more scarce, except for 2nd-hand, when new one is released, because they pull back so they don’t compete 970’s with 1070 too deliberately, i’ve seen a bunch of stores, just straight up slash they stockpile when a new model is released -despite the very day before still having pleeenty in stock
  • 2½ and depending on the next gen capabilities, an “11” series might just have the same effect as pascal did, by being so powerful+roi “friendly” -no reason volta couldn’t potentially accomplish the same
  • and 3, pc gaming doesn’t seem to lack casual buyers either, how pc gaming has been popularized, with varying lvls of affordability combined with the marketing/gaming"hype" & social platform rise, or even the “everybody wants to be a streamer/videomaker” where some pick a gpu too with editing/encoding in mind (trying to “help out” a lesser cpu?) for some reason, or something…

so there doesn’t really seem to be a “sudden” reason to “why” demand should necessarily drop to the point where “slashing prices” likely would be warranted as such, even with “some” miners drop off, -the way i’m viewing it ? :man_shrugging:

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I think I’m reading a different article to you two…

Unless I’m majorly derping…

  • GPU manufacturers have been directly supplying large scale crypto miners - crypto farms buy in bulk directly from the manufacturers rather than at retail, leading to fewer GPU’s making it to the general consumer. This means that there are generally fewer cards available to the general public driving costs up. However…
  • With the change in relative value of crypto currencies and the increased difficulties of mining/costs of electricity relative to mining profits GPU mining is no longer as profitable. Leading to…
  • GPU farms no longer vacuuming up every card under the sun and in some cases selling them off (or at least some small time miners). Which means more second hand cards on the market and in turn that demand direct from the manufacturers falls. Leading to…
  • More GPU’s making it to retail for the general public. Meaning more GPU’s in GnomeStop, and a drop in price as suddenly there’s a glut of second hand cards on ebay at normalised prices (although still expensive for 2 year old cards) and a lot of new GPU’s in standard retail at normalised prices.
  • Prices need to be slashed because with a mooted next gen GPU announcement in Q3 retailers/manufacturers don’t want to be left with old stock.

That’s what I read.

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Damn am I happy that we got the 970 for 350€ about 2 years ago, that card is still holding up well and nowadays it’s still as, if not more, expensive :joy:

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On topic, if I see that a game has procedural generation of content I avoid. Not interested in the sort of game where everything hasn’t been meticulously planned.

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