Epic Vs Steam and Regional Pricing

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@Fraggles

What would you prefer they did?

I’d prefer a pot as black as Steam didn’t go around calling kettles ‘unfair’. It is Valve’s responsibility to make games available on Steam, not developers.

@Fraggles

The metro pull was a huge dick move

Everyone who had purchased the game on Steam got it on Steam. Suspending future sales on Steam, while not a decision I’m a fan of, is hardly a ‘dick move’.

@Fraggles

most likely broke contracts the publisher had with steam as steam had already been selling pre-orders for them.

Again, all of those pre-orders were fulfilled through Steam.

@Fraggles

I have no doubt steam would have grounds to take that to court

I have doubt until you cite some grounds.

@Fraggles

Steam working as usual is great

‘Steam working as usual’ means DRM. It means screwing over indie devs time and time again and then hiding behind ‘the market’ instead of fixing the problems. It means serving as a haven for Nazis and other hate groups. I could go on, but you get the idea.

@Fraggles

console war era. They’re using money to buy a share on the market they don’t deserve

EGS is not a console. It’s free.
You think Steam deserves their market share? I’m not even sure ‘deserve’ has any useful meaning in this conversation.

@Fraggles

China’s interest in controlling the games industry.

40% is not a controlling interest. Why is the U.S. better than China? Why is your beef with Epic, and not with any of Tencent’s other investments?

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@Rhyagelle

I figured it out. It is a payment method company (a payment processor to accept a variety of payment methods), which also has it own payment fees on top of its cuts. It isn’t a fair comparison to pit a payment company against a game store front. Especially since they tip themselves on every purchase on top of that cut they make.

It is actually quite bad that a payment processor takes 5% cut from all of these methods (on top of what they themselves [the payment option being processed] may push on the customer) every purchase. They handle hundreds of thousands of purchases a day. Plus, there are still the conversation fees and there are dozens of banks and people reporting it back as a fraudulent company.

And if you don’t believe me, I was quite surprised by what I saw when I googled the company. Pages and pages of it, upon pages and pages.

And since EGS is using Xsolla to process its payment methods and they’re still complaining about the jacky prices per transaction, you know it ain’t good for em.

Where are you seeing that they pass along the payment processing fees, rather than covering them with their 5% cut?
Where are you seeing that EGS process payments with Xsolla?
Where are you seeing credible reports of fraudulent activity?
If you’re going to make claims like these, you should back them up somehow.