Hello boys and girls my name is Nick,i have an old laptop to my possession and i feel i have to upgrade.Not only to be able to play better games but also to be able to record and edit those videos.Alright so you know what i want the new PC but here comes the million dollar question
INTEL or AMD? I want to spend around 1000 euros but i am a total noob on pc builds.Could someone of you please help me to find the best possible Pc for this budget?
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AMD?
Does your €1000 budget include peripherals like a monitor, keyboard, mouse, sound? Or just the PC?
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AFAIK, recording and editing videos is mostly a serial process, i.e. not well-suited to multithreading, so you might not get a lot of benefit from AMD’s typically higher core counts. You should look up benchmarks for the specific software you plan to use, some software is better parallelized than others.
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Does this include a monitor, keyboard, mouse etc? If not, then you are definitely gonna have to go AMD (their CPUs are great for multi-media tasks and for gaming). If you have a monitor etc, then you could go with an AMD Ryzen 5 (great CPU!).
My suggestions:
AMD: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ds2bmq
Current Price: $1000
Notes about AMD Build: The CPU X means you can always OC it in the future, it is also far more powerful just a bit more than the non-x version. The motherboard is the best B450 boards you can get, got you 16GB of 3200MHz RAM for the Ryzen CPU, and a great SSD.
For the OS, if your current laptop has Windows 10, you can associate it to your email and then reinstall it on the new PC, log into your email and activate it. That’s what I’ve done. If not, a new Windows 10 Home key is going to be costly…you can add the OS to the above for $99 if you can’t get it to attach to your email for some reason.
AMD V2: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r7tKzY
Price: $1100
Note: Includes everything you need minus an additional storage system beyond SSD (you can steal additional storage from your laptop). It downgrades the motherboard and GPU and the CPU to the non-x variant, but if you need an OS, keyboard-mouse, and monitor, this build has it. I have had experience with the Cougar MX cases too, they are incredible and they’re so damn cheap, so their quality will be there. You can take out the OS from the cost if you can get it to attach to your email.
Alternatively you could wait a bit for AMD to release Ryzen 3000, which is supposedly going to blow old Ryzen out of the water and low-medium tier Intel out of the water, but if you’re still needing the extras you’d still be going their low-tier route to fit in the monitor and whatnot.
Unless you want pre-built links?
EDIT
Okay, looked it up. If you load up the links on the site, you can switch the builds to another currency. I think at most it’ll be about 100 extra but it’d be worth dropping towards for a huge quality step up.
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Europe sometimes gets shafted on pricing, so 1k usd might not be 1k euro.
@NickGG could I get which country you will be purchasing in? Helps track down prices.
All Ryzen CPUs are unlocked to my knowledge.
My recommendation is if you can hold out for Ryzen Zen 2 and Navi (likely mid July release), do so.
Otherwise I’ll provide some more input when I get home this afternoon.
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might be worth to note that PCpartpicker $ estimates can vary huuugely from € prices, specially depending on EU country living in or how willing to order outside borders/+long distance delivery
^at least in my experience i ended up with a chunk more, at times a bit more than just VAT would explain
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Before even talking specs, if you have any interest in video editing, you owe it to yourself to buy this Humble Bundle.
Vegas Pro 15 Edit for $25 is a stupid-good deal. It’s an excellent video editor, and not terribly complicated either. Heck, it would be a steal at 3x that price on its own.
You have about 14 days left to pick that up.
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Yea, but I don’t know how to switch the site, least of all on mobile, to build around that. 
I’m just giving him the parts I’d suggest all around. Lemme see if I can figure that out and redo it, but I’d need far more details on budget (Country, can I go a bit over, like say 100 EUR? etc) and situation going forward.
Yea, but the X variants are easier to OC and maintain. They have far better binning for a price difference of about $20-30 usually. So they are usually referred to as OC chips. 
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I might be wrong, but I think the €1000 budget is for the whole PC(be either with or without peripherals), and not just the processor.
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Dang I might snatch that one up. Thanks for the heads up!
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My pleasure. I haven’t opened Windows Movie Maker in two years. I finally feel… at peace.
Here’s the guy that really gave me my start:
Keep in mind, I use VEGAS Pro 14. It’s not really a big difference, and I even own 15 now. Most changes are either an improvement or just minor sprite/cosmetic differences, I just never really moved over. There’s no real reason why I don’t use 15 more.
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Which would mostly benefit from having a Nvidea GPU, tends to be supported better. If he intends to game and record at the same time 4 cores+ is definitely a good idea.
On a side note, a lot of intel CPU’s have vulnerabilities right now if that is something you are concerned about.
Have AMD CPU’s ever been locked?
A quick google says they have been unlocked for a while 
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I think they may have been locked back when they still used the Black naming scheme which distinguished the higher performance and possibly unlocked chips, e.g. X4 965 BE (Black Edition). Then they appeared to just designate those chips with a K at the end, e.g. A10-6800K. Which then seemed to turn into an X model in the original Ryzen lineup, e.g. 1700X. First-gen Ryzen chips that had the X label didn’t come with a factory cooler, although the later generations do and now the X just represent slightly higher clockspeeds than the non-X version I believe. The clock speed boost may have actually been the only difference the performance-tier processors actually ever possessed the entire time… I’m foolishly recalling what I remember after having owned those processors without looking them up again so I might be missing the mark by a mile here. Mostly just trying to establish how the naming scheme changed little by little across generations but still persists as an enthusiast offering in AMD’s processor lineup. I think there are even newer Pro models in the Ryzen lineup targeted towards corporate workstation use.
I came across this hardware vulnerability article regarding the estimated performance impact on AMD (-3%) and Intel (-16%) hardware once patched earlier today. Might be the same ones you were mentioning.
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Alright, I chose Deutschland on PCPartPicker, because I felt like it. Here’s what I got for you.
No corner’s cut while trying to stay near the 1k Euro Range (assumes includes German VAT):
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mL88pG
Cutting a few corners to stay under 1k:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DyvDP3
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@ the CPU discussion
The Ryzen CPUs aren’t locked, the X just means the CPUs are binned for overclocking.
Some older AMD CPUs were locked (and thus enthusiasts went after BE Phenom II and such) though, like the AMD Phenom II X3 710, and I believe one of the newer Athlons had its multiplier locked as well. I think that was the $50 CPU though, so that is understandable.
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This build uses an NVMe SSD for booting up really fast and a 1TB SATA SSD drive for games and other media. No slow, mechanical drives… or an OS because it didn’t fit the budget. 
Microsoft has made getting access to Windows 10 pretty easy now, though. You can use the Media Creator Tool from their site to install it and a watermark is placed on the screen until it’s activated. Works identical to an activated copy aside from that difference is my understanding. It’s also possible to upgrade from an older version of Windows and use its key to activate Windows 10. I think cloning the old laptop drive onto the new desktop’s SSD, then upgrading over the original OS now on it into Win10 would do it.
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor | €144.90 @ Alternate |
| Motherboard | ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | €79.90 @ Amazon Deutschland |
| Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | €89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland |
| Storage | Corsair - MP510 240 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | €51.90 @ Amazon Deutschland |
| Storage | ADATA - Ultimate SU800 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €106.16 @ Amazon Deutschland |
| Video Card | Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card | €195.89 @ Alternate |
| Case | Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case | €71.35 @ Amazon Deutschland |
| Power Supply | SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | €89.99 @ Amazon Deutschland |
| Case Fan | Cooler Master - R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.73 CFM 120 mm Fans | - |
| Monitor | AOC - G2778VQ 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | €167.00 @ Amazon Deutschland |
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
| Total | €996.99 | |
I thought binning might have been the only difference between the variants in between the Ryzen lineup. I wasn’t sure if that was actually the case, but I decided to get the R7 1700X over the R7 1700 because the moderate clock-rate boost suggested to me that the processor wasn’t one of the worst in the batch to have become a 1700. I wasn’t really concerned with the chip’s additional OC potential, just didn’t want to end up with one that may have barely passed the standards to be labeled as a 1700. hehe 
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