I am fluent in Chinese, so it’s a bit easier for me to see it:
I am fluent in Chinese, so it’s a bit easier for me to see it:
basically it was a pre-emoji naughty message
Interesting, the first one I had far too many options for, none of which looked right enough. I was not going to be interpreting the bottom line as 4 individual strokes and was thinking the left radical would have had to be 辶.
Second one I think that’s the one I settled for eventually as well. 3rd I see now works, never found that one at all though, same for the 4th. That’s where I started to gave up myself and figured I needed my friends help.
It does look like google translate is more cooperative with it if treated as Chinese, but it still really doesn’t seem to like the 2nd character.
Thanks for the help there, I very much enjoy the puzzle of decoding handwritten Japanese when I come across it, though it is still too often for naught. I am often able to figure out if it’s Japanese or Chinese, most of the time.
You are welcome, glad to help.
The best way to look at handwriting is the particular script known as “Kai” sometimes “KaiTi” or “KaiShu” that’s the way proper writing should look like.
With the brush strokes, often things are linked together in a way that only people who are used to seeing the linkages are able to easily decipher them, so don’t knock yourself there, it takes a lot of experience.
The following are images from Google search for these particular words:
You can totally see how difficult some handwritings can be in recognition. (Yes, row two, column three is the same word.) This is also the word that gave away to me that the writing is in Chinese. Because Japanese words as they were borrowed from China mostly over a thousand years ago, before the simplification of the outside box of this word, as you can see the difference between the first and second examples. Granted, a lot of Chinese calligraphy uses traditional words, so it’s very common to see Chinese handwriting that does not use simplified Chinese. Also note simplified Chinese is used in mainland China, not in Hong Kong or Taiwan. (Don’t worry about it too much, this is a little tid-bit about how I knew.) (I also look for some Japanese characters that are hiragana or katagana in a whole line of text. If I see any at all, then most likely it’s not Chinese, but there are some “cursive” handwritten words in Chinese that may look like one of those letters. The Chinese words that you see basically all fall into the Kanji words that are Japanese.)
You can see an example of that here:
Note the balance of the entire piece, as if the three words are balanced by the extension of the third. In order for everything to look balanced, the middle word is given slightly smaller real estate, whereas the main bodies of the first and third words are about the same. Because that “pie” stroke would make the whole thing look like it’s going to fall down onto the right side, the third word is written thus in such a way to completely balance the whole image. (Plus the baseline of the words together look like there’s a progressively upward move for preparation for this last down and to the left stroke.)
The last of the set really doesn’t get modified much from the Kai handwriting on the left, but you can see the middle stroke being drawn out as well, similar to the last word.
Okay, that’s your Chinese lesson in handwriting for the day… I am getting back to my paperwork I have to do at work.
Speaking of languages…
I had my first ancient Greek lesson today, folks!
And it seems like I’ll be learning some French too…
Funniest bit was that I walked into the class and one if my favorite psychology teachers was sitting there and we just stared at each other like
Seriously. Have any of you ever been students alongside one of your cool teachers in a class? Rad AF.
Bonus points because the class is free and the teacher is a hella funny knowledgeable old man with hearing impalements so I had to loudly scream my name in a class full of people I’ve never met three times while my cool teacher laughed her ass off.
PS: @YQMaoski I may have a similar painting at home I’d like your thoughts on. Pretty sure it’s Japanese, though. Once I find it I’ll post it here.
Lmao my autocorrect is so funny and I love the mental image so much I’m just leaving that there for posterity.
@coralinecastell, this is definitely a Japanese piece just by the style of art. But you are in luck, the two words there are both Kanji, and very easily legible.
The piece is titled:
Meaning literally “initial/first snow,” indicating the first snow of the season.
You and @kovec are providing examples to make me look edumacated… most of the time I have a lot of trouble reading inscriptions on artwork…
Far faster than me, I got yuki 雪 easily, but the first one I would by no means call easily legible. Closest I got, before you posted, was hirigana yu ゆ and that didn’t feel right at all.
Where are you all finding these awesome prints? Weird how they’re not lying littered around in Swedish thrift stores.
Pretty sure it was but didn’t want to assume. So thanks for confirming and for translating! Certainly makes it more special to me. Thank you so much!
And gee it was certainly not my intention to make you look edumacated…
My parents had it since before they had me. F if I know where it came from! They probably don’t remember either but I’ll make sure to ask.
Oh darn, imagine that. My vehicle no longer having factory warranty. What ever would give that away?
At dinner, and still thinking about things here. Enjoying a pretty nice brew from Belgium, and immediately thought of @Gnuffi…
Now back to dinner!
Kinda hungry now. But going to try and wait for breakfast.
Yes it’s upside down and pretty easy since it’s perfectly legible I’m sure anyone can feed it into google translate.
is what I get out of it, which google translates to “the official shrine of white mountain shrine”. The only tricky part is whether or not some of these are meant to be one 2 part character or simply 2 or 3 characters on the same line. As the 3rd and 4th are possible 2 parters, but also possibly 2 separate characters, where as line 5, 6 and 7 I do not think can be combined to be one character. Though I’d love to hear from Maoski to see if I’m wrong on that.