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#240

yea strength charm is technically not needed since you have pure nail (fight is balanced to be with 1-2 nail upgrades i think) specially since it’s one of those fights you can make light of with spell spam, but it will obviously help make the fight even more trivial adding 50% dmg to your pure nail, so not a terrible idea to get it either way
(PS, Strength charm don’t add dmg to Nail arts, as they have fixed dmg values depending on base nail upgrades)

if you notice their corpse resurrect by getting filled up with the infection/infected soul, there is no risk while his “introduction” happens, as it’s ofc a scripted event, and you can use this to move into position safely,
and after they are “reanimated” they then get up and “wake up” to actually be able to fight, you wont be able to hit them with the regular nail during then, but will still be able to dream nail him, they are then “fully awake”/ready to fight after their annoying scream (and you should be done dream nailing them by then, ready to dodge/avoid their attack)
(all of this ofc doesn’t take long btw, maybe 2seconds window, if that, -even if the description maybe make it sound like it’s a long theater stage opening affair.)
Basically dreamnail them as they get up and learn the timing to have the dream nail swing(s) done as their scream ends/right before (this is why Dream Wielder charm is helpful since it makes dream nail significantly faster)


#241

Ugh finally defeated the watcher knights)never ever want to see them again)…fragile(unbreakable I guess now) strength, grubsong, weaversong and sharp shadow all helped. Now to go try and kill traitor lord…another one I’m having issue with. :confused:


#242

welp, guess you didn’t manage to meet Cloth around with all her encounters then? She sorta spoils the fight a little and makes it sorta easier, a little in the sense of Quirrel with Monomon tho not as strongly

but with or without Cloth, the basic tactic is still pretty much sorta the same “duck and weave” (unless you go fullon banzai on him ofc and just kill him in 18 attacks in 15seconds ?:thinking::smile:)

  • you can try to keep him “in range” and he might not do his throwing glaive attack as much or at all(he should only throw when he gets X distance to you),
  • and then you just “jump” his charge(or dash the opposite way, or even through him if timed correct) and counter attack.
  • For his dive attack you do the same -or “preemptively” dash behind him and then counterattack
  • The main threat can be his Shock Wave attack, since it’s the only one in game you can’t skip around, and you need iframes to survive, which depending on dash timings can have left you on cooldown, so you need to use desolate dive then for the iframes to pass through the force wave without damage, but usually dash should be pretty reliably enough get you through unless you get really unlucky and “just” used it right before the wave

it’s a pretty straight up fight, once you get used to his 2 main moves and when/where to dash and counterattack, -even if the fight drags a little longer without Cloth, it’s still essentially the same "react and hit"fight.
Btw since healing can be sparse due to his rapid nature, if health is an issue you can just go for Lifeblood charms for extra masks here with little penalty, but the usual strength+shaman stone ofc is super advisable to end it quicker :+1:
best of luck Nicole :hugs:


#243

Sad part…Cloth is helping…did I mention I’m horrible at combat in games? :stuck_out_tongue:

I actually like this attack it gives me a small window to heal…wish he would do it more :stuck_out_tongue:

I have a hard time judging where he’s gonna land when he jumps to strike at me diagonally and usually wind up landing at the same place as him :woman_facepalming: and the shockwaves…didn’t realize that I could use desolate dive as well as dash for those so that may help


#244

me too :fist:, then if i like a game i learned and embraced the “persistence is key” mantra :blush:,
-aaand for other games i just toss the controller aside and switch the game off :rofl:

well, just keep him at range then to make him trigger it :wink:

yea your ground slam, -desolate dive/descending dark, gives invincibility frames for X short duration after the initialization of “dive” animation. Once the "twist and turning"animation is done (you can be interrupted during this small time +take dmg) during the descend and landing +“bounce” you retain iframes for a short time, which is enough to get you through the full/tall size of the “barrier” from his Shock Wave attack, -and survive all manner of other kinds of stuff and attacks ofc


#245

Aaaaand I finally killed him…

spoiler?

well Cloth did anyway… :cry:

Thanks for the tips, they definitely help. :purple_heart:


#246

Just bought a thing!!!
Like a week ago or so… I’ve played a bit since then


Little celebratory pic, with a fuzzy background of the last new place I rested at.
You’ve no idea how hard is to find reference material without spoilers.


#247

Remember, @M00 found spending all his Geo on Rancid Eggs incredibly useful and not a waste at all. Certainly don’t let the fact that Gnuffi, Fraggles and I basically never used them at all put you off.


#248

I love the chrono Geo coin you’ve created there. I hope you’ll enjoy the game.


#249

He likes to cosplay :neutral_face:

I’m enjoying the game thus far, save for some nuances it’s a pretty good game.

@xist …huh, I guess I’ll have to find out once I know what do they do then.


#250

useless hint of the day: they are not used for making omelettes

:smile:


#251

Don’t break my hopes man D:


#252

They’re pretty tasty, I hear.

Also, NKG is terrifyingly fast.


#253

i’m glad someone else thinks so too :+1: :blush:

ps, if someone feels like they struggle a little with him, i highly recommend the "oh sht oh sht holy crap i’ll be deaded -spam heal"charm setup: Shape of Unn, Quick Focus, Deep Focus, -lets you heal damn near fully up on flame pillars if you have the mana.


#254

I am inspired…

Never leave us.


#255

NEVER!!! at least not for the foreseeable future, you never know you know? :thinking:

@Gnuffi I discovered what the egg things are for! you lied to me! potentially so, I can’t confirm, but omelettes are a possibility D:<


#256

well, i didn’t know what they were for initially but bought over 50 of them thinking there was no way the game would let me keep on buying something without end if it wasn’t a rly good item … i figured, better put my geo into something potentially rly good than risk losing them :rofl::rofl::rofl:


#257

Huh… for me if a game allows me to endlessly buy an item it usually means that it can be easily acquired by other means and the store is just a commodity, case in point, I already have seven, of which I only bought two to test out some dialogue.


A little update, I’m not a fan of orange in this game, it makes harmless things big and explodey.


#258

Oh, believe me it gets worse…much, much worse more orange…


#259

Oh GOD the CITRUS.