are you quite done now?
“language and symbolism evolve”, sure
but we ain’t talking about fcn either, we are talking about origins
(which is part of why your apples to oranges bs point failed with the swastika)
you, incorrectly, attributed, my gnome to hearthstone, not its “language”, symbolism or other. Which i, gently, corrected and reminded that the origin and hence my use was quite another.
Now instead of just accepting that, or hell rolling your eyes and moving on, you dug in, and doubled down, to which i then (stupidly) bother to show how wrong you are, again.
Now, you then trying to compare that to a bs parallel with something like the (potential) various swastika meanings, (and then trying to excuse it) falls flat even harder. More so when your location supposedly is in Spain, a part of europe that still should get somewhat basic ww2 history lessons during school,
-tho that’s ofc a bit presumptuous of me, since you could have moved there as an adult, from a part of the world where the symbol doesn’t have the same connotations as the west.
(tho still hard to believe someone could go completely unscathed even from the western meaning of the swastika anno 2018)
But even so, it’s a deeply flawed comparison for this
Hell, if i had used a Santa jpg, you would have been better off trying to make an argument of why that surely must have been the Coca Cola Santa, or even X movie/story related character eg.(Tim Allen)The Santa Clause instead of some particular i might have had in mind.
Now i did have a feeling you would irk ahead with what appears a habitual “needs last word” which was also in part why i told you to search for treasure where the sun don’t shine in a cordially manner, because i really thought that would be the end of it and i couldn’t bother with more from you. Lo and behold, you, just, can’t, fcn, quit.
I really hope you think i’m not worth the time, that would cease more replies/notifications attached with you, which i’m all for. But blow me sideways if i’m gonna let you exit stage left on that misbegotten attempt at correction on your part
Language, meaning, symbolism all evolve, (ie change), yes -their origins do not.
Just because something popularizes it (or misappropriates it) doesn’t change where it came from
so let me say it again, it did not come from hearthstone. I know this, not because i even knew it was from X specific wow character, but because i used it years before Heartstone even was made -and it’s labeled under it’s original name in my folder too even. +for that matter it’s merely “generic Gnome creation; with most common facial hair, with most popular colour; pink” combined with an actual ingame item the mind control cap. Which i like meni meni others actually ran around playing “looking like that”, doesn’t get more standard gnome char than that pic.
(And because “everything” from Heartstone is ripped/reused assets from WoW!)
doesn’t matter where you or other "first learned aobut it"these days, doesn’t matter if generation Z is gonna think Starcraft invented spacemarines or if Warcraft invented Orcs and Elves, or that Coca Cola invented Santa; doesn’t change their origin even if what they remind people of is different than where it came from -when what we are talking about is where something came from.
and i’ll remind everyone here again, including you, we were never talking about the “meaning” or “interpretation” of a symbol or imagery, but straight up where something came from, aka “the origin”.
So don’t bother drawing more conclusions or correlations, this was a quite small/simple subject that got blown way the fck out, our of sheer arrogant stubborn argumentativeness
and i’m sorry to @Shalandir (and the mods/community) for taking part in spiraling your lovely topic out like this but i’ll be darned if i’ll accept such asinine replies lighthearted.
Because fck me should Eidos have stopped 3 posts ago while was still slightly “ahead” of my pissy tolerance lvls.
and ps changing it to a stuffed bear toy still doesn’t work, because Teddy Bear is (still somewhat) of a “local” language figurative, as it’s simply not called a Teddy Bear in “all” other languages thus the meaning, symbolism, (and even still origin) doesn’t match up with what you are trying to get at “here”